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Noah Cross from Chinatown.
He's a greedy, manipulative child rapist with a triple-digit kill count who even blames the rape victim — his own 15YO daughter — and is a Karma Houdini to boot. He dies of old age before the events of The Two Jakes, but it's not even really satisfying at all because he still manages to keep himself a steady reputation with over $10 million in net worth, plus Jake and Katherine (Cross' inbred granddaughter) are traumatized for life because of him. And, sadly, similar cases arise all the time in real life; the movie's own director Roman Polanski for example.
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Snickers: "You're not you when you're hungry."
Plutonian: "I mean... I just ate one and I'm still fucking evil."
It really say something when a PE's treatment of another villain makes you think "did they really deserve this much abuse?". Here's some examples I know of:
Joker (Arkhamverse) kidnapped and tortured Black Mask for several days after forcing him to kill his own girlfriend, who Black Mask clearly really loved as Origins: Blackgate shows that he still holds a photo of her in his wallet. Joker also took over most of Black Mask's entire gang, killing the ones who wouldn't switch sides. Even Batman thinks aloud that Joker is a monster for his treatment of Black Mask despite haven't even met the former yet, and despite the latter being a sadistic crime lord.
John Doe kidnapped, drugged and tied Theodore "Victor" Allen to his bed for a whole year, even cutting off one of his hands, reducing him to an empty shell of his former self with irreversible damage to both his brain and his body. Despite Victor being rightfully loathed by the police for being a drug dealer as well as a child molester, even they were left horrified at the inhumane levels of torture that he suffered at John's hands.
Ramsay Bolton flayed bits of Theon Greyjoy's finger to the point where he was begging him to cut it off, had him raped, castrated him, mailed his amputated penis to his family so they disowned him afterwards, and then proceeded to hold him prisoner and invoke Stockholm syndrome, turning him into an obedient slave/pet named "Reek". Even Sansa Stark has nothing but pity for Theon despite him being a lech, a child murderer, and an oathbreaker towards her family.
Mark Jefferson killed Nathan Prescott so he'd be the sole party responsible for Rachel Amber's death, who Nathan accidentally overdosed in an attempt to impress Jefferson by partaking in his whole "kidnap, drug and take pictures of teenage girls getting tortured" scheme. Nathan's last phone call to Max Caulfield, apologizing for everything he did while also warning Max that Jefferson's coming to kill her next before dying himself, paints him in a very sympathetic light despite being portrayed as little more than a misogynistic, homophobic bully with homicidal tendencies beforehand.
Are there any I'm missing. Please comment them down below!
For me personally, it's the Arrowverse version of Hunter Zolomon. He gets dragged off into the Speed Force (which is pretty much Hell for speedsters) by the Time Wraiths, doomed to spend the rest of eternity as their mindless attack dog and undead slave, aging rapidly while losing the ability to even scream in pain/horror anymore. He's lucky that Killer Frost put him down for good later on.
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They're in the process of getting demoted.
"All my life, you've told me the world is a dark, cruel place, but now I see the only thing dark and cruel about it is people like YOU!" - Quasimodo to Judge Claude Frollo
"I believe he is quite sane. Just evil. He takes no interest in the people he has hurt. His research appears to be the only motivating factor in his life." - Dr. Stephen Kellerman just before interviewing Scarecrow (Arkham)
Jonah: "How can one man hold the entire NYPD at bay like that?" Robbie: "Jonah, Kasady's not a man, he's a monster. He's done things even the post wouldn't print." - J. Jonah Jameson and Joseph "Robbie" Robertson on about Carnage (Spider-Man: TAS)
"Kill him, Castle. Our world is bad, but we are soldiers. He is a parasite; he would make the world this way forever." - Gen. Nikolai Zakharov on William Rawlins (MAX)
"You've told me that Lex Luthor is everything bad about humanity. Well, Brainiac is everything bad about aliens." - Supergirl on Brainiac (DC)
"You will be a curse upon Gotham. Children will wake from sleep screaming at the thought of you. Your legacy will be death and madness." - Paul Cicero on his son, Jerome Valeska
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Bazilsiraj did.
The very bottom option, in my opinion, is why Nicky Cavella is such a bad character.
Best Toy Story villain in my opinion. He's the perfect foil to Woody, and Ned Beatty (R.I.P.) did such a great job voicing him. Who knew he could play menacing tyrants so well?
@JustinMasterMine I wish it wasn't a joke tbh. Folks like Mini Ladd still have Discord servers with underage moderators that he could easily take advantage of again, and I think Bill would be most displeased about that if he knew.
I actually really like Krell, he's a badass villain.
Another one's on the way, too: Ultimate Deadpool.
Honestly thinking about it, though, Noah Cross probably should've been auto-approved. Mainly because Chinatown is widely regarded as one of the best movies ever made, and Cross himself has little to no complexity as a character; he's just a greedy pervert.
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Neither? There are, like, far worse Fake Tragic PEs out there, both in terms of how unsympathetic their FE is and how heinous their actual crimes are.
I agree. Comic Malekith embodies "creepy awesome". Here's the new proposal by the way: https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:JakeTheSnake0451/Pure_Evil_proposal_-_Malekith_the_Accursed
I'm making a new one, though. He's actually 10x more psychotic and depraved than the MCU version...but also a way cooler and more interesting character. :/
This has already been discussed to death, so I see no reason to keep this thread up.
Owlman is a perfect example of an omnicidal misanthrope. He thinks man is a cancer, and so he wants to destroy the multiverse because it's the only possible real choice when everyone else's choices keep creating infinite Earths, thus coming to the conclusion that life was meaningless.
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