48 Votes in Poll
The Evilness890 Well, in general, here we mean the context and symbolism of the villain. I have already written more than once (and Obluda511) about Holden and Johan. Of course, Chigurh is a very good villain and as a weapon of fate and an effective psychopath is great. And Wesker is very smart and competent, as well as adequate. And I totally agree that Wesker is very undervalued. I can't say anything about the Joker, but from what I've seen and heard, for the most part he is pleasant with his laughability and, although he has a rather flat motivation, he knows how to justify it and I agree with his arguments. But Holden and Johan stand out from them all in that they are the perfect metaphor for what is evil from a moral point of view. Holden's speeches and philosophy are interesting to contemplate, and his appearance and actions also perfectly convey his essence. Johan is at the same time an example of the Antichrist intertwined with references in his essence to Nietzsche. Therefore, in my opinion, these two are still the best, but I do not deny the fact that those three (especially Anton Chigur and Wesker) are good villains.
The Evilness890 Hmm, could you tell me the characters that are better written than Judge Holden and Johan Liebert for you personally? It would be interesting to hear)
Although I prefer Holden, Wesker is still a great villain.
Drillburd78 AM still has more resources and computing power. This kind of speculation has a different character. What exactly do you mean if she (if I'm not mistaken) does it tell the player that she is locked within the game? Moreover, she has the ability to influence only one game (that is, her home world). Moreover, it depends on the context of going "beyond" the game, either just to feel the real world and, in principle, move through different technologies, or in the literal sense to acquire a physical body and influence reality. I can also ask you: what if AM was created by a high-tech civilization that is hundreds of times more developed than humanity? Then AM would have potential beyond comprehension. The comparison is within the canon for the two stories, especially in a direct collision, AM could easily subdue Monica under his control. Therefore, it makes no sense to say "what if", since the comparison is based on two original works.
Dustlord777 AM has the ability to evolve to the level of destruction of the universe. He owns (in theory) almost unlimited forces and resources of the Earth. Has a huge intellect and based on his hatred, he will develop to create a new humanity for the next torture, for example. Moreover, as I remember, Monika exists only within the framework of the game, while AM can directly affect reality. Moreover, in the book, the hatred of AM can go beyond the Earth, moving to the rest of the planets, galaxies, and so on.
48 Votes in Poll
The Evilness890 I totally agree. Chris had a huge story armor (however, like Sheva) and for me Wesker still remains the winner in Resident evil.
RawriGodzilla 2000 I don't know, but polls with his participation not only gain a large number of votes, but at the same time many consider him a really good villain (I don't consider the version of the novel). Moreover, there was a post about people's opinion of him, which confirms this.
Ahahahah, Bill is winning, at least for now. Who would doubt it. And the most ironic thing is that some people say that on this wiki they idolize Johan... At the same time, they do not notice this on the villains wiki (and not only) with Death, Jack Horner, Bill, and so on.
It's just a small thing. I'm even more interested in why Albert Wesker belongs to the category of deviants.
Notsussybaka900 Why is it not relevant? Each criticism should correspond to reality and not to a personal judgment about such concepts as 'did not meet my expectations' or 'his appearance is ordinary'. I hope that it is clear that the personality of a character should be logically supported by the reality of where he comes from. Appearance is determined by the influence of external factors and has nothing to do with the writing of a particular character. Disclosure is just the culmination of what happened before the events of the discovery of some main antagonist and also does not affect the fact that someone is poorly written, and even more so, it only shows how cunning this 'whiny guy' is if he uses creatures to manipulate and promote his ideals. For this reason, it can be logically assumed that he will develop a superiority complex in relation to humanity, and even more so if he was already a psychopath in childhood. All bad spelling can be refuted in this way. Personally, I think that a character should defend his positions well, be skillful, charismatic and manipulative with ultimate unique goals. The world of Vecna is unique in many ways and we don't know much about its essence. Okay, I want to know what do you personally consider objectivity?
Notsussybaka900Yes, I admit that I said it, but shouldn't the opinion be well-founded and reasoned? Moreover, I showed the other side of his opinion and they did not answer me why I was wrong, so I think that after all it was unjustified criticism.
Notsussybaka900 I have justified why this is not the case. If I said that 'it's just your opinion', then yes, that wouldn't be an argument. But I have justified why what I said matters. So what's the problem? I didn't hear anything reasonable either, if I could justify why he was wrong.
Notsussybaka900Why not? Considering that about a typical nihilist, I agree in some ways, given the justifications of Vecna. But the rest of the argument is nothing more than a look from the outside. Judging by this, more than 80% of villains are poorly written, if not more.
XOBITES Then will there be any logical justifications other than subjectivity? It's just that people perceive something differently, based on their own emotions in accordance with their personality. At least that's how I saw most of your post. And yes, just for fun, do you admit that I won or are you just kidding?
XOBITES Oh well. 1) I agree with the typical nihilist. But we all know that everyone justifies his point of view in his own way, and for example, for some people, there is no need to prove and show something to anyone, it is enough for him to give a couple of his thoughts and his thoughts (in my opinion) are really justified, given how people behave and what they mostly want. 2) As for the status of a real big villain, this is pure subjectivity and for me this is not a disadvantage, given that in many works there is no "whiny guy", but there is an ordinary monster. 3) At the expense of a person with a thirst for power and the destruction of the weak.... and that there is no such thing in the real world? Most of the criminals were just like that this time. The second is that he seemed to have nowhere to put his nihilism and misanthropy, and therefore he decided to express it through this form of worldview. Moreover, he associates himself with a predator and therefore naturally he will oppress the weak. We must also take into account his nihilistic and misanthropic justifications about humanity and therefore he has no restrictions on following aspects of such a concept as 'evil'. Moreover, many villains that people like and have exactly the same attitude towards people, but Vecna has her own form of an ideal world, which for the most part differs from the picture of the world of most villains. 4) At the expense of design, this is exactly the same subjectivity. Moreover, mutations and viruses affect organisms of different creatures in different ways and we do not know how Upside Down manifests itself from a biological point of view.
XOBITES May I, for the sake of interest, hear why you don't like Vecna?
Least favorite category? It's between "dimwits" and "cowards".
This question is repeated more than once. But my favorite not only PE, but also the character is still Judge Holden.
Although I chose Goku Black, for me the Future Zamasu is also beautiful. Therefore, consider that my favorite is both the Future Zamasu and Goku Black.